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19 Responses to “discussions on the church of scotland”

1. Aaron Rathburn Says:
   24 April 2009 at 9.30 pm

   Hey Art,

   Thanks for the add on the blogroll! I really like Mike Bird, I was just chatting to a friend about his NPP stuff yesterday. Thanks for the heads up!
2. Brandon Says:
   25 April 2009 at 12.06 am

   You-kilis
3. Meredith Says:
   25 April 2009 at 2.59 am

   Definitely worth reading. I have to say, however, that the state of the church over here in the UK is dire. Just not a lot of charity around, if you know what I mean.
4. a Says:
   25 April 2009 at 8.37 am

   I can claim no personal knowledge about the church in the UK, but I hardly think that any of us here in the US have the right or track record with our own church denominations to make blanket statements and derogatory statements such as those on the Ref21 blog.
5. dgh Says:
   25 April 2009 at 8.53 am

   Art, you’re killing me. As if you were not making blanket statements and derogatory statements about Enns’ critics? Disagree with Trueman all you want (and I certainly do on a variety of things), but don’t try to hide behind your own imitation of Rodney King. Give yourself some credit. You may not be one of Machen’s Warriors, but at least you like a good fight.
6. art Says:
   25 April 2009 at 8.59 am

   That comment was not from me. I’m Art. The comment was from ‘a,’ who comments on here often.
7. dgh Says:
   25 April 2009 at 10.40 am

   Doh! Apologies.
8. Old Life Theological Society » Blog Archive » Trotter is Funny, Trueman Isn’t Says:
   25 April 2009 at 11.34 am

   [...] Trueman doesn’t know the true state of evangelicalism in the Church of Scotland (thanks to Art Boulet for the link).   For instance, Trueman doesn’t give any credit to groups like Forward [...]
9. Spinewell Says:
   25 April 2009 at 2.00 pm

   So Trueman’s name is finally out there on ‘the blogosphere’? I’m sure he’s quite pleased, quite giddy. (As one theologian put it: “Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life.”)

   Now we shall wait to see which nom de guerre Trueman will assume over at Ref21 in order to mock and dismiss the criticism. Which will it be?
10. jessboulet Says:
    26 April 2009 at 2.47 pm

    hahaha DGH really put his foot in his mouth, didn’t he?

    Artie, tell me, how does it feel to be verbally attacked for something you didn’t say?!?

    haha, seriously that killed me and made my day.

    ALSO I JUST noticed that Ron Paul’s revolution…. love is highlighted in red backwards. Very cute and neat.
11. Sam Says:
    26 April 2009 at 3.03 pm

    I donno man, I’m always a fan of mocking the absurd. And if there really is a bigger fuss about homosexuality then say, denial of the Resurrection – it’s absurd enough to warrant a good blog post.
12. art Says:
    26 April 2009 at 3.13 pm

    Sam: The “if” part of your comment is what Bird is getting at. His point is that there is not a bigger fuss about it and that there are some faithful evangelicals in the C of S.
13. Sam Says:
    26 April 2009 at 3.48 pm

    Trueman Evangelicals who have not fought denials of the resurrection among office bearers — and some of whom stood by in silence as fellow evangelicals were beaten up by the church courts over refusals to ordain women — should not fight homosexuality. Indeed, they have absolutely no grounds upon which so to do; and it just looks like bigotry to the onlooking world. Too little, too late.

    Bird reads this and feels a knife in his back? – I need to talk to that guy about the Resurrection. Obviously I’m not afraid to criticize Trueman – But, I think Bird’s response does a bad job at reading him. Carl is neither criticizing every evangelic in the church nor denying that good protesting evangelicals exists. He is careful enough to qualify his criticism – if no one fits that description, at worse Carl is criticizing nonextant people. Bird does not try and argue that there is no one who fits that description, he argues that there are some people who don’t fit that description – duh.
14. Sam Says:
    26 April 2009 at 3.49 pm

    Sry, first paragraph is suppose to be in quotes – my HTML is off.
15. Ros Says:
    26 April 2009 at 3.55 pm

    Just so you’re clear, Mike is not a member of the Church of Scotland, so I can’t imagine that he’s feeling any knives in his own back.
16. Spinewell Says:
    27 April 2009 at 8.19 pm

    Well, Sam, it looks like wittle Rev Von Ribbentrop came to the rescue. Oh, well…
17. dgh Says:
    29 April 2009 at 5.27 am

    Jess, so glad to make your day. It made mine to make yours. Maybe it would be a good idea if each of us got a life.
18. jessboulet Says:
    5 May 2009 at 11.48 am

    haha I literally just saw this over a week later… turns out I DO have a life…. neat
19. a Says:
    5 May 2009 at 9.44 pm

    “turns out I DO have a life…. neat”

    maybe that’s why you saw it so late